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I-1098 ad doesn't tell whole story

posted Oct 09, 2010 23:18:03 by ChuckHaunreiter
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Jim Padberg said Oct 12, 2010 15:35:23
Any State income tax would just allow the camel's nose into the tent.

Just curtail spending on the government's part. We already pay nearly 10% of most expenditures in the form of sales tax and 1098 would only cut the State's share of property taxes by 20%.

Vote NO on 1098 and let Bill Sr. donate freely to the general fund.
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ChuckHaunreiter said Oct 12, 2010 19:01:06
Well, Jim, you've certainly gotten your talking points down.

Which spending do you want to curtail?
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Jim Padberg said Oct 12, 2010 19:26:39
Anything that doesn't benefit me or my family personally.

Like spending for "arts", or DSHS, or the Queen's salary, among many other things.

I just don't think that another tax will benefit the majority of the WA populace, considering the unemployment rate and the burden upon many WA small business owners, who in all honesty, probably annually gross in excess of $200K singly, and maybe more than $400K if a spouse is involved. It's not very clear in I-1098 how that income amount is calculated.

I'm not going to get into the proverbial spitting match with you, Chuck. We have been there and done that before in another day and time. That said, I know I am not going to win any "debate" with you.

I notice you are not getting a bunch of responses to your Forum, so I thought I would just enter a last response to agree to disagree on this subject.

Do you remember me educating you about the word "exacerbate" after the Dec 2007 flood?
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ChuckHaunreiter said Oct 12, 2010 21:48:41
Anything that doesn't benefit me or my family personally.


If everybody thought like that, we wouldn’t get anything done. I mean, supposing the things that benefit you or your family don’t benefit me and my family?

Like spending for "arts", or DSHS, or the Queen's salary, among many other things.


So you would like to do away with all welfare?

So you think the governor should work for free?

I just don't think that another tax will benefit the majority of the WA populace,


Sponsors say the new tax revenue would help pay for education and health-care programs.

Do you think those are worthy causes, Jim?

considering the unemployment rate and the burden upon many WA small business owners,


It would increase the business-and-occupation tax credit for small businesses to $4,800 from $420 per year.

How’s that sound to you, Jim?

who in all honesty, probably annually gross in excess of $200K singly, and maybe more than $400K if a spouse is involved. It's not very clear in I-1098 how that income amount is calculated.


I-1098, backed by a coalition including labor, health-care and education groups, would create a 5 percent tax rate on annual income above $200,000 for individuals and $400,000 for couples, and a 9 percent tax rate on income above $500,000 for individuals and on income above $1 million for couples.

But you admit that you don’t really know how many small businesses have an annual income of $200,000/$400,000, do you, Jim?

I'm not going to get into the proverbial spitting match with you, Chuck. We have been there and done that before in another day and time. That said, I know I am not going to win any "debate" with you.


There’s nothing stopping you from presenting YOUR facts.

I notice you are not getting a bunch of responses to your Forum, so I thought I would just enter a last response to agree to disagree on this subject.


Well, it’s not as well known as LCGTF.I was. And many of the people who drop in to take a look know they won't get away with a lot of whining. But LCGTF.I was just starting to become an intellectual site before it was shut down. I’m hoping to bring in some intelligent people as time goes on.

Do you know how to contact Stan?

Do you remember me educating you about the word "exacerbate" after the Dec 2007 flood?


Yes, I do. And what an education it was!

Thanks!
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Jim Padberg said Oct 12, 2010 23:13:09
Chuck, I am finding it difficult to respond to you as I cannot figure out how to capture your previous response (in quotes) as you seem to do with mine. This MB is very different than any other MB we (yes, you and me) have been on since, at least, 2007. Can you post some sort of instructions (as in a sticky thread) as to how to accomplish this?

Man, I really don't want to cut and paste EVERYTHING, but, so far, that's my only real alternative, and I don't have the time for that.

Any help would be appreciative.

Awaiting your administrative reply.
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Jim Padberg said Oct 12, 2010 23:19:30
I don't know how to edit my replies on this site.

You must educate us on this and other subjects.

And, I have no idea how to contact Stan, nor would I care to. He reminds me of the narcissist President we currently have.

This ought to give you fodder for a pushback. :-)
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ChuckHaunreiter said Oct 12, 2010 23:50:27
I don't know how to edit your replies either. This isn't as good of a forum as vBulletin but I can't afford the three hundred bucks. It's just a way to get the Democrat message out and shoot the breeze.

I always got a kick out of Stan. He was better at articulating his views and better at slamming the right-wing wackos than I am.
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ChuckHaunreiter said Oct 12, 2010 23:58:50
Chuck, I am finding it difficult to respond to you as I cannot figure out how to capture your previous response (in quotes) as you seem to do with mine.


The third icon from the left underneath reply is for quoting. So I guess what you've got to do is copy and paste the whole thing, quote what you want, and delete the rest. I know it's a hassle, but it's the best I can do for now. Sorry about that.
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Jim Padberg said Oct 13, 2010 02:06:39
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The third icon from the left underneath reply is for quoting. So I guess what you've got to do is copy and paste the whole thing, quote what you want, and delete the rest. I know it's a hassle, but it's the best I can do for now. Sorry about that.


OK. Maybe I have gist of it now. I'll try it and see if I can learn a few things.

I don't blame you for not wanting to fork out the bucks for a VBulletin site.

No matter that I don't agree with your political views, thanks for sponsoring your site. I expect it will get better as you discover all of the tools available.
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Jim Padberg said Oct 13, 2010 02:10:15
The only prob I have is that the the quotes don't show the poster.

Just sayin'...
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ChuckHaunreiter said Oct 13, 2010 02:20:50
Jim Padberg said:

I don't blame you for not wanting to fork out the bucks for a VBulletin site.


Oh, I've drooled over the vBulletin and would LUV to set one up, but not on MY budget.

I expect it will get better as you discover all of the tools available.


That's just the problem. This is just a bare-bones program. I did a lot of searching on the net and was lucky to stumble onto it.

The only prob I have is that the the quotes don't show the poster.


Yeah, I know. It seems like whoever designed this program would have thought about that. Something else I don't like is that the homepage doesn't indicate who or when the last post was. You have to open each forum to see if there's been any new posts.
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